Tell Us Your 4.10.2011 CicLAvia Stories!
April 10, 2011 at 9:01 pm Joe Linton 105 comments
CicLAvia 4.10.2011 was a huge success, with crowds easily double that of last October, and the most perfect weather imaginable! Use the comments below to post your stories! How was your CicLAvia? What did you do at CicLAvia? What did you discover at CicLAvia? How could your CicLAvia be even better?
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FernandoG | April 10, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Thanks for organizing this event! great work by the police at every major intersection…can’t wait to do it again
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George | April 10, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Loved the ride – but too many intersections, especially through downtown. (Yeah, I know – they’re 1-way streets so you kind of have to have them….) One problem / suggestion – it seemed like many of the car intersections were of they type where cars activate the signal (i.e., there’s not that much time for a green light in the direction the bicyclists were going….) Wouldn’t it make more sense for the LAPD to control the flow – letting traffic through for longer intervals, but also letting riders through for longer intervals? Also, totally confused as to why traffic on Wilshire was reduced to one lane each direction for the cars – you have to block the turn lanes, but the through traffic could proceed with two lanes instead of being squeezed down to one, couldn’t it??
Overall? Well, I was by myself instead of with a group, and 7 1/2 miles was a bit short, especially with the traffic stops, but the concept is so great that you’ll see me back later this year!
Thanks for all the logistics efforts on your part!
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Robert A. Stallings | April 10, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Great event, great weather, great turnout. Can’t wait for 07/10/2011! Hope more slower riders keep to the right and fewer mommies with two-three kids ride in twos or single file rather than three-four abreast.
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Keenan Sheedy | April 10, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Truly enjoyable and, to me, inspiring. Ciclavia shows the power of cooperation and self-organization. People were generally respectful and helpful to each other. I joined with a co-worker, my daughter, son, daughter-in-law and granddaughter. I rode with the Sierra Club and Greenpeace to promote “Beyond Coal”.
Let’s make the next one even better!
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Joe Borfo | April 10, 2011 at 9:27 pm
While walking/jogging on the right side of the street, along with my wife, dog, and 8 month old kid in a stroller, I encountered many rude cyclists telling me to get on the sidewalk. I tried to correct them but to no avail. I wonder if these people act any different to bike riders when they are in their cars? Aside from that – Great success on many other levels for this event. Long live CicLAvia for all types of participants.
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Doug | April 10, 2011 at 11:01 pm
yeah… that sucks.. i’m sorry…. they probably weren’t regular bike commuters like myself, just happy not to have to fight with cars…. though it would annoy me when groups of people 5 or 6 abreast would be walking down the middle of the lanes…. but thn i would just slow down and take the time to take in what was around me…
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mandm | April 11, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Similar to many other posters here who were pedestrians at this event, I was shouted at by several “unclear on the concept” cyclists. I appreciated the “Rules of the Road” signs asking cyclists to respect pedestrians, though. I don’t know what more the event organizers should do, just another plea here from another pedestrian – please, cyclists, accept that people on foot are also trying to enjoy the wonderful car-free atmosphere.
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Joseph E | April 11, 2011 at 9:38 pm
We walked last time, and it was great taking to the street, though we often stayed on the sidewalk for more shade.
However, I was mollified yesterday when I heard another bike rider tell a pedestrian to “use the sidewalk, please,” as we both turned from Spring onto 7th. Even though it was said nicely, it was totally wrong.
With the huge crowds this time (easily twice as many bikes as last time – including my family on bikes this time), I don’t know if walking in the street would be as enjoyable as it should be. And there was no room for chalk drawing or playing games or whatever.
The solution is to increase the length and variety fo the routes, so there is plenty of room for everyone, while making sure cyclists know to yield to pedestrians. How about we do Wilshire and Vermont, both of them all the way thru the city? They are nice and wide.
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Damien Newton | April 12, 2011 at 4:35 pm
This strikes me as so weird. My group walked nice and slow for just over three miles on the street and didn’t hear one negative word. I wonder if it had to do with the geography (the road was six lanes wide where we walked) or if it was just a more family feel in the area around the park.
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Naomio | April 15, 2011 at 1:58 am
If there was more to do along the route, there would be more stopping and it might be easier for slower riders/pedestrians. The whole event would probably move at a slower pace. As it is there were long stretches where many riders sped up and it became more hazardous for slower participants.
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Swelike | April 12, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Yeah, had the same experience with a group of drunken bike riders. They were the ones who were chanting and had the tall bikes ridden by clowns (appropriate). I have been informed that they are known as Crank Mob and have a less than positive reputation.
But still had a great time and feel like the event as a whole was well organized and extremely pleasant. The constant stops in the Historic Core/Bank District was the root of the problem. The lights should have been on blinkers and controlled by traffic cops. I didn’t see that many cars waiting. It’s a Sunday. Very few people had an actual reason to go anywhere on a car. Especially downtown.
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velorucion | April 10, 2011 at 9:32 pm
It was awesome! It could be even better if it were a longer route, and open for a few more hours!
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Jung Gatoona | April 10, 2011 at 9:39 pm
The second CicLAvia was better than the first, and I’m sure of it that the third one will be even better. The whole event was like a dream come true, and the weather and large turnout from Angelenos made it even more dreamlike. The whole event felt like a great community event, and like the first event, I got the sense that Los Angeles wasn’t so big after all. I got to ride side by side with the mayor of my city, got to meet a few people I knew and had the chance to meet new Angelenos who I would have never met had it not been for this wonderful event.
Everyone was smiling, and courteous and kind to each other. It almost felt like no one was a stranger, but a fellow neighbor.
I will never forget this day. The sound of laughter, great music, and smell of great food from the food trucks that filled the air on this bright sun-shining warm day, as I pedaled down hills with fellow Angelenos will be in my memories forever, and I will treasure it for eternity.
Thank you CicLAvia.
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Xtina | April 10, 2011 at 9:57 pm
LOVED the events (both 10/10/10 & 4/10/11) and love that it’s gaining traction as a regular occasion!
One suggestion, that may or may not be under control of the LABC: On CicLAvia dates try to coordinate with whatever authorities oversee the regional bike-paths that feed to and from Downtown to ensure that *they’re open*.
Riding home to South Pasadena after the event, I took the Arroyo Seco Bike Path that runs along the cement drainage channel for the river/stream there, and was shocked and dismayed to find the gates at its northern terminus (Marmion Way) LOCKED. Thank goodness for the gang ‘o’ homies–busy tagging the channel when I passed them earlier–who assisted me & my bike in jumping the cyclone fence. But honestly! Bike commute FAIL.
With CicLAvia so wonderfully encouraging Angelenos to get out and about on two wheels, we’ve got to do everything possible to make it easy to do so, on the 8-mile route and beyond. Perhaps pass the word along to bike-lane managers to avoid similar snafus on future dates.
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Doug | April 10, 2011 at 10:57 pm
headed down to cicLAvia by myself from sherman oaks, not really knowing what to expect… when i saw the red line completely filled with bikes, i knew something big was happening… though there were a lot of people, i never felt overcrowded… most people were courteous and careful bikers, though i didn’t understand why walkers would be in the middle of the street and not to the right with the slow traffic… i though i would be down there for an hour or more tops…. i was out there for 4 hours and didn’t want to leave… have a longer route next time…. from santa monica to pasadena… that would be an awesome cicLAvia!
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Joe | April 10, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Had a great time — now I’m home and nursing my sunburn. Aside from the longer route and later closing that we all want, I have a suggestion about intersections. Often the lights were so short and intersections so constricted that it took two or even three cycles of the light to get through. Next time around, could the pinch-points at the intersections be eased, so that more bikes could go through at once? Also, the signal timings are set to treat the Ciclavia route as a minor street (with a short light) — but for one afternoon every few months, those streets are major boulevards, and should be given more green-light time.
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Nick | April 10, 2011 at 11:19 pm
My friend and I were on bikes, and it was a pretty blissful day of riding. I really, really enjoyed myself.
How cool would it be if in LA there were permanent bike roads like that? If there were dedicated, safe roads like the route created by CicLAvia, it would be a piece of cake to commute seven or more miles to and from work. That’s one of the ironies of LA: We have this huge, beautiful city, which everyone drives around, but is so eminently bikeable due to its relative flatness (in most parts) and good weather. Obviously that’s a legacy of urban planning from a century or more ago, but it’s nice to dream of another way of ‘mass-transit’.
A note: Something I observed was that pedestrians got a little crowded out of the race by the sheer number of bikes. It seems like a really pedestrian-friendly event in theory, but so many people were on their bikes that it made it hard to walk on the roadway itself. Definitely not a bad thing that a lot of people were riding bikes, but it just seems like a logistical hurdle to overcome if the intent is to involve more non-bicycling participants.
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MAURICIO OSORIO | April 10, 2011 at 11:25 pm
I LOVE CicLAvia and the second one was far, far, far more crowded I rode my bike with a group of 8, but with sooo many bikers this time it did seemed a bit dangerous for the walkers and joggers in the traffic lanes that they sort became the 2nd class that we bikes feel when cars are on the road. I don’t know what can be done to make them safer, but it would be a shame if it only becomes a bike and rollerblade event. One other thing, maybe with the crowds being what they were It seemed that I didn’t see the volunteers like I did on the first ride. I feel it is VERY important for them to stand out somehow.
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calwatch | April 10, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Overall, it was great to go through neighborhoods that you would never go through as a pedestrian. I walked the route from Little Tokyo to the end in East Hollywood. I would have liked to see more stuff going on at LACC, or at least directional signage from the end of the route to the Vermont-Santa Monica Red Line station, better enforcement of kicking bikes off the sidewalks (and these weren’t kids either, but regular riders – for one day out of the year, could you please use the wide open road right next to you to do your biking?) and more traffic allowed to cross some of the choke points, especially Vermont, which never seemed to clear a platoon on one light cycle, and was constricted for car traffic for no good reason to one lane in each direction.
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Daniel Edwards | April 11, 2011 at 12:08 am
I loved EVERYTHING!
Everyone was really great and friendly. I loved seeing all the families out and all the kids with training wheels, haha. Despite what others have said, I think all parents managed/protected/shielded their children very well and responsibly. The only few possible dangers I ran into were with people stopped in traffic or someone walking really far left, slowly. The intersections were fine. I saw the traffic and if that’s what it takes then that’s fine. I can deal with a little stop and go on my bike to keep everyone driving in the area happy.
I only wish that there were more businesses making a big deal out of this. The few places I saw, yeah, they were open, but I guess I was looking for some of them to be more ‘inviting’. Meh, no gripes really. I’m glad I put suntan lotion on and I’m SUPER glad I brought my sound system.
It was SOOOO much fun. Things like this make me want to stay in LA, even though all the work I do in film visual effects is leaving to Vancouver, New Mexico, New York because they have better tax incentives, EH EM!. So um, stop the exodus of film jobs leaving LA for the 3rd CicLAvia so I can enjoy the 4th and 5th and… =)
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David Howard | April 11, 2011 at 12:28 am
Had an incredible ride with all you guys today! This day has doubled my love for our great city, and much of that was due to the goodness and joy coming from all of you!
At Melrose/Heliotrope, I loved the vibe! The nearest 10 stores provide all the top products sought by good LA cyclists! Ran into Mayor Villaraigosa and his wife and had the perfect chance to do something I’ve been wanting to do ever since I saw his recent press release announcing future expansion of LA bikeways to 1,600 miles. I offered him free unicycle lessons, pitching how much free press he could get on a unicycle, then, no kidding, his wife stepped in (jokingly) saying “this is where I step in”… she did, however think it was too dangerous (I tried to hide the scrapes on my elbow, but it didn’t work).
They just don’t understand how much fun it is… he’ll eventually shed his extra wheel.
Loved riding with you-all (no matter how many wheels you have!)…heheh. I would do this every weekend if it was available!
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Warren Bowman | April 11, 2011 at 8:44 am
Great idea, but I don’t think Tony has been seen n public with his wife for a while. They are separated, ever since his extramarital activities came to light.
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Chewie | April 11, 2011 at 6:51 am
It was a good time and it seemed as if there was a bigger turnout than the first one.
Although I came with my bike, it did seem as if more needs to be done to make the CicLAvia a friendlier place for pedestrians and small children.
As fun as it is to ride the course quickly, it can detract from the family-friendliness of the event. Expecting small children to have the same “stay to the right” and “don’t swerve” instincts as adults doesn’t strike me as very realistic. Also, at many times I saw pedestrians struggling to cross the street. Bikes should do more to yield in those situations.
These events are really cool, and a key to their success is their ability to appeal to a wide range of people.
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Sarah | April 11, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I had a blissful time jogging with my stroller on 10.10.10 but had to bail yesterday after a few blocks due to the crush of bicycles. I had hyped this event to my friends with toddlers but called them off after seeing how much less family friendly yesterday’s event was with the much larger bike contingent.
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Gaurav | April 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm
I agree – pedestrians were second-class citizens at this Ciclavia – as they usually end up being on regular days. I loved running from Beverly to City Hall on 10.10.10 with a mixed and collegial group of runners, skaters, walkers, and bicyclists. No such luck this time. 4.10.11 was far from being a pleasant pedestrian environment. Bicycles were the new cars – aggressive and careless.
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Josh | April 11, 2011 at 10:50 pm
First off, the best way for kids to learn things like staying to the right and not to swerve is by getting acclimated to biking in groups. For the most part, Ciclavia was really friendly to kids, but I’m really wary of any attempts to make things more kid or “family” friendly by making them less friendly to bikes, and it sounds like that’s what people are implying.
Second off, the pedestrians weren’t necessarily doing themselves any favors. LA pedestrians are dumb in general compared to the jaywalkers of other cities, with no real concept of how traffic moves — with bikes in particular, too many pedestrians treat bikes as if they’re as maneuverable as walking, and it’s not.
Third, Ciclavia got, what, 200,000 this time? Let’s hold off on the concern trolling over whether it needs to appeal to more people. It got a lot of people this time, and did a good job with it.
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Rick Risemberg | April 11, 2011 at 7:48 am
Beautiful, happiness all around, despite a few squirrels who thought they were in a race. Happy people all together in an eight-mile-long town square, no noise but voices and bells, everyone relaxed.
Indeed, make it longer next time, and fewer car crossings too. make sure the merchants along the route know this could be the best day of the year for them…if they bother to open. Bikes are much more efficient at bringing customers than cars are. At bringing happiness too!
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aj28 | April 11, 2011 at 8:36 am
Thanks, Ciclavia!! Second time around was just as awesome as the first one last October! Being on the 1st Street Bridge over the LA River, I couldn’t believe I was breathing CLEAN AIR!! The air actually smelled sweet – & no I wasn’t imagining it!! Just shows how significantly different our world is when the autos are removed from the equation.
Couple of suggestions for upcoming Ciclavias:
Increase both the length and period of the event. Have it run through several cities in the basin allowing each to display their local businesses. Just as the last Ciclavia, local eateries were slammed with patrons and probably wish the event were held every week!
Coordinate with regional transportation agencies to provide feeder routes to the event: i.e., bikepaths, bike lanes, buses and Metrorail. This could greatly increase the participation of additional riders throughout the region and signal the area’s intent on reducing our dependence on cars.
Finally, as with the 1st Ciclavia, my thanks go out to LAPD, LA Dept. of Transportation, LA Dept. of Traffic and all the volunteers that made Ciclavia possible. You all are to be commended for your roles and time dedicated to the event. Hats off for making Ciclavia a success!! See you at the next one!
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Oscar | April 11, 2011 at 9:03 am
We had a blast. My wife and our two children went, along with some family that came to visit from Las Vegas. It was great seeing all the kids on bikes in the streets and families hauling their little ones around.
We stopped at city hall and let the boys run around a bike while we took in the architecture all around us.
We didn’t do the entire route, which was fine by us, mainly did Alameda to Figueroa and back.
A big thanks to all of the organizers and volunteers for putting this event together, we’ll be there for the next one.
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Anika | April 11, 2011 at 9:15 am
We had a blast at Hollenbeck Park, just observing. I did wonder how pedestrians would be treated, so we didn’t even bother to cross the street. That was fine since there was enough to distract us where we were.
I wrote a little about my experience: http://faboomama.com/2011/04/11/taking-in-ciclavia/ Most people were nice. Well, everyone was nice except for one guy who was a jerkbutt. It was especially awesome to see (for once) lots of different kind of cyclists out on the rode being nice to each other. So unlike at bike paths and the Rose Bowl. Y’all know who you are.
Can wait to see this expand and ride myself. Thanks!
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M | April 11, 2011 at 9:40 am
This was another great event and it felt like there were MANY more people than last time! Can’t wait for the future ciclavias!
One comment was that the signage was really bad where the cars cross the path and more than once, I saw people nearly run into the short traffic barriers that suddenly seemed to appear in the middle of the lanes. I know there is a need to make people stop at these points, but at times this seemed very dangerously since people had to stop suddenly and dodge the signs.
Based on the number of people that attended and the general crowd sizes, it really seems like the route needs to expand/hours need to expand!
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72HW | April 11, 2011 at 9:50 am
What a great day! I agree that the traffic stops could be better managed, with longer intervals for pedestrians on the route, but this was not an issue in October. I bet the much larger crowd yesterday had everything to do with the bottlenecks. If participation is to increase next time, a new strategy will have to be employed.
My ‘favorite’ part of the day was right at 3 PM near Hollenbeck Park. While crossing one of the last intersections a friendly, but grossly misinformed police officer hollered out “OK – the event is now over. EVERYONE BACK ON THE SIDEWALKS!”
I almost stopped to chat with him about this, but thought better of it. He was smiling as he said it after all!
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Ben Simpson | April 11, 2011 at 9:50 am
Many thanks for putting this on,
it was a beautiful day and a wonderful ride.
It made Los Angeles feel like a community rather than a sprawling metropolis.
A few photographs of bikers on the 4th street bridge:
http://blog.hodomania.com/?p=5818
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Alison Kendall | April 11, 2011 at 9:55 am
Loved it–even better than the October event because the weather was perfect. We rode in from Santa Monica with SM Spoke people–stopping in Beverly Hills at the Farmers Market, and loved the whole experience. Discovered Toshi Sushi, great sushi/bento place right by the bike valet, and stopped by Luigi’s Cantina–a major scene inside and out–they need a bike valet next time there for sure. Overall tons of fun seeing Los Angelenos of every age from all over come together to have fun together.
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ScottC | April 11, 2011 at 10:34 am
Another great day of riding. Had a group of friends out with us and everyone seemed to have a great time. Certainly a lot more people than the first one. Yeah, some of the intersections were difficult to get through, but not that big of a deal. Thanks for another great event, see you at the next one.
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hairpik69 | April 11, 2011 at 10:36 am
would love to see this happen much more often! great way to check out the businesses and people we often miss while driving. so many smiles and relaxed, happy people! posted my pics here:
http://hairpik.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/dia-de-la-ciclovia/
see you in july!
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BigBag | April 11, 2011 at 10:38 am
I live downtown and love the idea of being able to use the streets. I headed out with my two dogs looking forward to the event. On 7th St there was no room for pedestrians – it was sidewalk to sidewalk bikes. On Spring St. we stepped into the street and were immediately yelled at by bikers to get back on the sidewalk. Bike horns were honked at us and cyclists told us to get off the street. We finally gave up and spent the day like every other Sunday on the sidewalk. It wasn’t a great experience for us.
After the event there were still so many bikes downtown that were now off the street and on the sidewalk it was difficult to maneuver.
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RDS | April 11, 2011 at 10:51 am
First off, the event was awesome! Can’t wait to do it again.
Here are a two suggestions for next time — both I’ve seen already posted but felt they are worth repeating:
Traffic Crossings — Longer right of way at traffic crossings would be great. We had to wait through almost 10 light cycles to cross Vermont in a huge backup. The light changed so quickly and traffic guards only let a small group through at a time. Also fewer crossings if possible would be even better.
Safety — There seemed to be confusion over bike right of way versus pedestrians, etc. We witnessed a couple of bad accidents involving bikes slamming into people. I know this is supposed to be an all inclusive event, but there is a real danger in mixing such a huge volume faster moving bike traffic with folks walking or kids on trikes. Perhaps there some way to keep bikes apart from slower moving traffic… and to help prevent walkers from darting in front of bikers without dampening the spirit of the event. “fast lane” vs. “slow lane”?
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David Howard | April 11, 2011 at 10:54 am
COMMENT/SUGGESTION:
I found it disturbing at CicLAvia to see how many children (even small 6-7 year olds) were riding without any helmets. It would be great if CicLAvia were to get a helmet manufacturer involved in a charitable donation to help get some protection on those young heads!
Recently, the police arrange a VERY SUCCESSFUL helmet giveaway associated with Critical Mass (I think 1,500 helmets). The helmets were reserved in a “first reply first served” fashion on the web in advance of the event. CicLAvia could easily mirror that and make a big difference in the safety of children and one would hope the safety-consciousness of their parents.
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Robert A. Stallings | April 11, 2011 at 11:27 am
Yes! Great idea! I was also distressed to see how many adult cyclists were riding without helmets. All three injured people I saw being attended to during the first hour of CicLAvia did not seem to have been wearing helmets. All seemed to have head injuries.
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Jason Burns | April 11, 2011 at 11:10 am
Congratulations on an amazing event! Looking forward to CicLA3.
I posted a few suggestions here:
http://blogging.la/2011/04/11/8-simple-ways-to-make-ciclavia-even-more-awesome/
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Michelle | April 11, 2011 at 11:42 am
Great event on Sunday and amazing turnout! One suggestion for next time would be to provide bike rentals at the start and end points. Some people don’t own the right kind of bike for this event but would still love to participate.
Excellent work!
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Stephanie | April 11, 2011 at 11:53 am
Yesterday’s cicLAvia was not as good as October’s. They seemed to be stopping the riders on many more streets, plus they put up all those sawhorses. These actions made riders bunch up and group together too much. There was no flow like last time. I loved cicLAvia number one, I was very frustrated with cicLAvia number two, and I will definitely NOT be attending number three unless the organizers can actually organize and do a better job with the next one.
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Joe Linton | April 11, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Thanks for the comment. I agree that the flow was easier/smoother with the smaller turnout on 101010… we’re going to be looking at the best ways to manage the larger crowds. Let us know suggestions of what you think will make it work better.
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jen | April 11, 2011 at 12:09 pm
We went in October too. This time we got a group together, all skill levels. Had breakfast at Cha Cha Cha, chilled in Hollenbeck, then lunch at Wurstkuche.
I love this day, gives me a chance to turn on my friends who think I’m crazy for riding in L.A. We got converts!
Thanks to all the volunteers. I vote for longer hours.
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LAofAnaheim | April 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Fantastic event! I organized a group ride at cicLAvia and all the attendees had lived in LA for at least 10 years but never knew the Bicycle District, Hollenback Park, 4th street, etc… They were amazed by the beauty of the city and what they can see on foot or on bike. The City felt smaller and a much larger community for those few hours.
Suggestions –
1) I felt the police put too many barriers at the crossing points. The bikes had to cramp themselves into the far right in order to cross the street. Next time, I think that less of a barricade is needed at crossing points so more bikes/pedestrians can get through the intersections.
2) expand the route. 7.5 miles felt short in the scheme of things. Due to the high crowd volume, this will be a huge selling point for neighboring districts for future cicLAvia’s. You have a good base here, but let’s see how far we can go into East LA and Hollywood/West Hollywood.
Otherwise, fantastic job!!!! Already RSVP’d for the July and October rides on Facebook!!!
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Dave Wyman | April 11, 2011 at 12:28 pm
My story: I rode six miles with Lance Armstrong yesterday, a highlight of CicLAvia for me. Lance is definitely one of my culture heroes.
While I had been a little sorry I hadn’t hustled down to where he was going to make an appearance at CicLAvia, I had fun riding with a group of the L.A. Wheelmen from W.L.A. to the western edge of the event.
When we reached City Hall, we saw a contingent of riders headed our way. Was it Lance? Yes, it was. Two of us turned around and followed him – with about 40 other riders – back to Melrose Ave.
Lance appeared to be by himself. Everyone in the group who rode with him – down to about 30 by the end – had a chance to ride next to him and exchange pleasantries for a few moments. He was friendly and very unassuming.
I was amazed – no security, no camera crew, just Lance out for a Sunday ride at CicLAvia. I hope CicLAvia and the mayor can move heaven and earth, if necessary, to get him back next year.
I posted several photos and a little story about my ride here: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/726708-Risking-Life-if-Not-Limb-today-with-Lance-Armstrong
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Joe Linton | April 11, 2011 at 2:50 pm
great story – folks should follow the link: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/726708-Risking-Life-if-Not-Limb-today-with-Lance-Armstrong
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Tracie West | April 11, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Great Family Event!!!
I loved how encouraging and tolerant everyone was with the children biking!! Happy we all had helmets and no falls! I only wish my child hadn’t come down w/ the stomach flu 1/2 into the route!! A big Thank you to the Ciclavia volunteer who stopped to try to help us. He was so kind!! Single mom’s so appreciate that kind of support!! Thank you!!! Also thought the bike repair availability was a great Idea!
We are looking to Event #3 and #4!! Hoping we are well for the next time so the entire family can finish the route together!!
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Joe | April 11, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Another suggestion, aimed at restaurants this time: Please, make some street food! I don’t want to come in and sit down and miss the action on the street; I want to grab something quick, eat it in the park, and keep riding!
Put up a sign to let riders know that you have street food available, and (if you can) put a stand out on the sidewalk to sell $2-3 morsels. If your restaurant is within a block or two off the route, see if you can get a sign up on the route to direct traffic your way.
I tried getting a couple tamales at Mama’s Hot Tamales (one of few restaurants with a street presence), but there was a big line which was barely moving, so I left. I didn’t remember where Wurstkuche was, so I never made it there. I ended up eating a nasty little burger from a stand at City Hall, because it was fast.
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Alek F | April 11, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Great event.
But too short!
The length should be greatly increased.
I rode from Downtown westbound,
and – it felt like the route finished in the middle of nowhere . Ideally the route should continue further west, and terminate around Hollywood/Highland area, or similar.
Please have a longer route next time!
Otherwise, great experience.
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Ron Gay | April 11, 2011 at 12:58 pm
We had a wonderful time at our first Ciclavia! Everyone was great, friendly, and had a great time. We will be at the next event in July with more family and friends.We rode the Gold line from Pasadena along with many other fellow bikers, too cool. Congratulations on putting on a fabulous event.
Ron
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Hercules Rockefeller | April 11, 2011 at 1:38 pm
The event was amazing, but as others have mentioned, the bicycles have completely overwhelmed the event, making it difficult and dangerous to be a pedestrian. I walked with my wife and a few friends pushing strollers – I realize the event is bike-centric, but they promotion made it seem as if walkers were welcome as well. For all the complaints bicyclists have about bullying motorized vehicles they are just as bad if not worse.
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joe borfo | April 11, 2011 at 1:42 pm
The magic of CicLAvia is that it turns the streets into a park for the day for clyclists AND pedestrians / joggers with their kids or their dogs.
A lot of cyclists are uneducated that the fast riders should move to the left just as the pedestrians need to be reminded to stay on the right. It’s NOT a race, and it doesn’t hurt to stop off to the side frequently to interact with others.
Letting CicLAvia devolve into a bike only event will only lead to it’s demise.
Bogota, Columbia has 80 miles of this type of event EVERY SUNDAY, and they have just as many pedestrian participants to bikes. Let’s learn from from their success to keep this event towards embracing more participants rather than excluding certain types. Let’s branch into all areas of LOS ANGELES, not just downtown.
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danceralamode | April 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I ran the entire route and back (did 12 miles total in just under 2 hours), and I stayed mostly to the right, but where the street slopes down to the gutter, I have to move more left (more towards center of right-hand lane) because it hurts to run on uneven ground like that. Any runner will tell you this. However, I had no problems navigating because I used the same awareness as when I ride in traffic or with large bike rides–I didn’t change course or trajectory suddenly, always checked if I needed to change my line, and I only got slightly buzzed by a cyclist once. Although some jerk at one of the traffic signals decided to ride into the oncoming bikes (and me) and nearly almost took me out because of his jerkery. That was very dangerous, and I wish there was a way to kick people out of it for very blatant disregard for public safety.
I didn’t mind the cyclists or runners or walkers who were going slower or faster, I just paid attention to where I was going and my surroundings and had a very enjoyable run. The bottom line is: just like in every day life, we have to share the road. And we all need to be aware that some people will be out riding fast, while others will be meandering on the street.
When I came back later on my bike, there were indeed pedestrians walking somewhat aimlessly through bicycle traffic. My solution, just slow down and go around. If you want to race the route, show up early, but if you are out and about afternoon, just know that it’s going to be a much more chill ride due to the crowds.
Also, I started running the route at 915am, and most of the streets were closed at that point. There were a number of bicycle clubs who also came out early to take advantage of the empty streets and race as fast as they could. People who complain that when they got their after noon or later in the day that they couldn’t ride fast or had to deal with other people should have just shown up earlier. And if people think they are going to come out and not have to deal with other people, well, the world doesn’t work that way. Be nice, slow down, and let’s all have a safe good time.
On another note, last time I didn’t patronize any local business, but this time I made it a point after my run to go to two local businesses and spent a fair amount of money. And it was nice, not necessarily to be participating in the ride part of the event, but the “I can easily bike over to this restaurant with no fear and no hassles” part of the event. Honestly, all the activities are great, but just being able to patronize businesses without car traffic was nice in and of itself.
I hope I am in town for the next one!
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Evan | April 11, 2011 at 2:39 pm
I agree that some of the crossings felt unnecessarily cramped with the barriers put up to funnel people to the right. I didn’t notice this as much in October, but maybe it felt this way with the extra riders.
Most people I saw were relaxed and if they wanted to go faster, they went more to the left and were respectful of slower riders. There were a few exceptions to that, but there are unfortunately people that seem like jerks in all walks of life (shirtless rollerblader who felt it necessary to speed up and go between two people who were riding to the right and having a conversation…I’m looking at you.)
Let’s all remember that the people who are putting this on are doing it for the good of the city, and they should have all of our gratitude! A few negative things here and there are worth trading for the much bigger benefit, I think.
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Andy | April 11, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Every event can be better, but I’ll let others pick it apart. For my part, it was a glorious day. IIncredible energy and spirit all around. Keep up the great work, everyone! MacArthur Park was a great stopping point, perfect to showcase the efforts on 7th Street for the Bicycle Plan.
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Garner Grayson | April 11, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Fantastic event for nearly all of the reasons in other comments and many great suggestions for future events, especially Joe Linton’s responses. However, it should never be considered as a “work out” challenge, primarily for safety and inclusiveness reasons. I am an avid 73 year-old cyclist and I got my weekly workout on Friday on a nearly empty beach bike path in the freezing cold. There were other challenging rides early Sunday for those that have to work on weekdays and one could always take Venice from the beach to DTLA to get some exercise. Unfortunately the cicLAvia on Oct. 9th is the same day as the Long Beach Marathon bike tour but it will be over long before 10am for anyone who really wants a workout. I will certainly try to do both.
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Joe Borfo | April 11, 2011 at 2:52 pm
I’d like to also add that I have discussed the issue of pedestrians and cyclists with peers and have concluded that expanding the length of the route to be a strong solution. Please consider implementing this!
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Crystal | April 11, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I took the train in from South OC & was disappointed that I was the only cyclist going & coming. I’m a novice cyclist and I loved that I was as welcome as the ‘serious’ cyclists. I rode end-to-end both directions and it really was a perfect day for it. Well done Cyclavia and thank you to the City for hosting such a great event.
Even as a slow cyclist I found the combination of pedstrians and children in the lanes with me disconcerting. Frankly, I wondered that anyone would be so bold as to walk 3 persons across with 20 bikes bearing down on them.
I have no criticisms but have a couple of suggestions for the sake of enjoyment and safety:
Instead of an end-to-end ride could it be arranged into a circular map with all traffic moving in the same direction? Not only would it increase space but specific lanes could be assigned to specific participants – pedestrians in the furthest right lane, small children in the next lane, all cyclists on the ‘wrong’ side of the road…something to that effect which would greatly reduce the danger to pedestrians AND cyclists.
I agree with others that better accessibility with restaurants and/or food vendors would be great. I anticipated buying lunch and snacks along the way; thank goodness I brought some cut fruit.
Thank you Thank you and I’m excited for October!
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Michael | April 11, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Wonderful event! More food trucks!
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jojo ramos | April 11, 2011 at 4:30 pm
arrived at Hel Mel with a group of 8 (only me and one other in our group had attended CicLAvia I) and meandered our way to Hollenbeck Park, still had a lot of fun but it was tricky staying in a group with that many people. Everyone had a good time though one member of our group was flustered with the volume of cyclists.
STILL, with the streets that crowded, it was probably still faster to get from end to end than if the streets had been filled with cars!
i also didn’t like the crossings where you had to squeeze through the road closure sign thingies (everyone was squeezed enough!), and also noticed the lights were very short. I also witnessed a horrible bike on bike accident as the result of a crazy homeless guy throwing a glass bottle (or something) in the street at the very beginning. maybe more bike police patrolling the streets in the morning until the crowds scare off the crazies?:/
I liked how the booths were right on the street though! Last time I felt like they were off the street and out of the way. It also felt like there were more food trucks then last time, and i feel like i saw more businesses open.
Yesterday showed that CicLAvia has hit it’s puberty; we still don’t know what to expect and everything will be awkward for awhile but it’s not gonna keep me from attending. The first CicLAvia was perfect and I will be attending the next two. I wanna see where this vision is going… 🙂
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Christopher | April 11, 2011 at 6:31 pm
I agree – I did not have a group, only me and my partner Cali. We lost each other for the better part of an hour due to the restrictive crossings.
Get rid of the bottle necks at the traffic crossings and allow more time for CicLAvia attendees!
And allow more local businesses the chance to set up street booths in front of their stores – please! So many yummy looking places and no where to lock up the ride!
If the next two events are to grow in a similar fashion, a longer route is no doubt required!
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Jeshii | April 11, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Fantastic time! Stops were great, route was interesting, loved the 4 button collection mission and the food trucks. Would love more of everything for next time.
Expanded route would be nice, but also maybe expanded hours? Me, my son, and my brother just barely did the whole route and back between 11 and 3 with one stop. Was tough schedule with a 2 year old. A little more time and we would have taken another break.
Less car intersections would be nice! I agree that the timing on the intersections was pretty awful. If the traffic cops are going to be there anyway, can we have them control the flow and not the dumb lights?
Thanks for putting this together. This was my first time and I will be back next time without fail. So much fun.
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Tamara | April 11, 2011 at 7:02 pm
I, unfortunately, couldn’t make it to this one but was at the first. I did promote this to my high school students and many came today telling me they went, it was crowded, pedestrians were in the way, BUT that it was better than Midnight Riddaz (the Friday night thing). 🙂
I lived vicariously through Twitter feeds and picture postings. It looked VERY crowded compared to last year. Perhaps next time there can be a TON of signage and reminders for slow cyclists and walker to stay right and riders to stay in the center. This should be kid friendly and if people were getting “run down” by bikes, well, they might stay home next time.
Can someone PLEASE tell me if the July route is the same? I was hoping it would be more West since it’s SO HOT in July. I rode in October with that crazy 93 degree day and didn’t do so well with the heat. Since many of the riders aren’t regular daily riders, cooler would be nice. I mean seriously…Wilshire through Museum Square? Pico zig zag towards Venice and end at the pier in Santa Monica? Man that would rock 🙂
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Joe Linton | April 12, 2011 at 12:33 am
unfortunately there’s a 4-month lead time for permitting large special events… so in July it’s probably going to be mostly the same route, with minor tweaks
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OrangeVelour | April 11, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Last year I walked it, this year I vowed to ride and I LOVED it! Rode from home to HelMel, met up with friends, leisurely ride to DTLA, wind swooshing in our ears, sounds of happy people chatting as they whizzed past, lack of car exhaust, no fear of being hit by a bus…glorious. We patronized a bunch of East L.A. and downtown food and drink establishments, so restaurants, take heed! If you cook it, we will eat! Especially vegan food! Can’t wait for future CicLAvias, maybe in different neighborhoods to give folks tastes of other routes, shops, restaurants, sights, and people??? Oh, and THANK YOU! It must take a ton of planning but you really pulled it off.
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Paul S | April 11, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Had a great time, this was an awesome event that everyone needs to experience.
Only comment I have is to not reduce the lanes of traffic at the traffic crossing intersections. At almost every intersection the vehicle traffic was reduced to one lane in each direction, even if the road allows for two or three lanes of through traffic. I am sure this made for a much worse traffic congestion around this event. I totally agree that this event is well worth the inconvenience of the non participant that have to be in the area but the city should at least do everything they can to not make it worse then needed.
Also the reduction of the lanes at the intersections on the route needs to be large enough to accommodate the participants of all skill levels combined. Some were of adequate size and layout and some reduced the participants down to half a lane on both the approaching side and the opposite side after you crossed the intersection making it so the participants crossing the intersection would bottle up in the intersection. A standard needs to be developed and used through out the route.
These are the only thing that I saw in the entire route that I think needs improvement, other then being longer. Thank you to the organizers, the volunteers and city workers that made this a great event.
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Paul Cline | April 11, 2011 at 8:44 pm
My wife and I rode up from Long Beach along the LA River route and we could not have been more pleased with CycLAvia. Seeing so many people out enjoying the streets without their cars was inspiring. We hope the powers within the City of LA support many more of these events.
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Aaron Paley | April 11, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Here’s one of the best stories from 4/10 that I heard from the LAPD. A father is out at CicLAvia at the Bike District with his two kids. He is attending to something and loses sight of his six year old daughter on her bike. Amazinglly, he doesn’t contact the police until two hours have elapsed and he is desperate to find her. The police but out a call and find the six year old within 10 minutes. Where is she? They were sure they would find her close to the Bicycle District. But no. She rode her bike from Melrose and Heliotrope to Holllenbeck Park. 7.5 miles. She just followed the CicLAvia route and went along with the protective crowd. When asked, she said she never felt afraid and had a great time riding from one end to the other. CicLAvia created this protective space where a six year old could go from one end of Los Angeles to the other without fear. Now, that’s amazing!
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Aly Sanderson | April 12, 2011 at 8:37 am
Wow that is an amazing story. Glad to here she was reunited with her father and family.
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Will Campbell | April 13, 2011 at 10:33 am
Am I lame for choking up while reading that? So be it!
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SKD | April 12, 2011 at 12:31 am
I am sure that a longer route is in the works. Since this past Sunday attracted at least 200,000 participants, the streets were a little more crowded with bicycles and pedestrians. We need to insure that both are safe. Pedestrians need to be educated not to walk out into the street when 1000 bicycles are passing by, they wouldn’t do it when cars are whizzing by, why do it when bicycles are riding by? Bicyclists need to be educated to keep an eye out for pedestrians, they sometimes just stop right in front of you, so give them a wide berth. Also
kudos to Sprint PCS 4G for donating $10,000 to CicLavia.
We need more companies to participate in this event with money and booths (200,000 people will see your products, close up and personal).
Other than that, a big thank you to the event organizers, the volunteers and the City of LA. It was a beautiful event that needs to be done again and again and again.
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DSIT | April 12, 2011 at 12:57 am
The event is about everyone taking back the streets!
Not allowing pedestrians to do that is alienating a large group of people from the event. As was said many times, it is not a race so why is it frowned upon when walkers were using walking in the street?
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Bennett | April 12, 2011 at 12:40 am
It was totally awesome — and by the sheer number of people, the route obviously needs to be expanded.
IDEA: One central location (Dodger Stadium parking lot?) with routes that go NESW — then have specific events at the end of each of those routes.
It’s not just about taking cars off the streets — its exploring the world at a whole different speed.
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Roadblock | April 12, 2011 at 1:12 am
THANK YOU! everyone who made this happen.
My great story? CRANK MOB the parade within a parade.
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Elson | April 12, 2011 at 2:02 am
Aaron: I overheard about the lost girl from one of the police officers on the route. I was told by the officer that she was “7 years old, Hispanic, on a bike and wearing a pink top and brown pants/shorts”. I immediately sent out a notice on Twitter about her. Several people re-tweeted it. No reports of any missing children in the news so I assume whoever was lost was eventually found. If that was indeed her then what a story!
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John L. | April 12, 2011 at 8:33 am
I attended both events, the one in October and this one. Both times I was blown away by the experience. This time I brought a friend from work and he was amazed as well. He said, “you can’t describe it, you’ve got to experience it.” I think it really does open our eyes to the possibility of car-free spaces in our cities. It fosters a feeling of community much more than when everyone’s in their cars.
Couple of comments: First, to those complaining about kids and families riding too slow, remember, it’s a ride, not a race. Second, I hope everyone who is calling for a longer route is willing to donate the time and/or money to make it happen.
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ks | April 12, 2011 at 9:09 am
It was a amazing event, this was my second , looking forward to the July 10th event. My husband and 5yr old daughter rode with me and we all had a wonderful time. You really have to experience it for yourself to appreciate it, my sister in NY is coming out for the one in July, she was so moved by it. Speaking of families, I will say it is wonderful to see kids of all ages riding bikes, my only worry is that so many were not wearing helmets. As a walker myself, I say walk at your own risk, there is a sidewalk for a large part of the route that can also be used.Thank you Ciclavia for the most amazing event!
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cvj | April 12, 2011 at 9:16 am
Great event again! Thank you organizers! But let’s not wait for events like this to get out of our cars and use the streets. Share the road, everyone!
See you out there…
A few pics and a video here: http://asymptotia.com/2011/04/12/glimpses-of-ciclavia/
-cvj
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josef bray-ali | April 12, 2011 at 9:26 am
All this chatter about the pedestrian menace is really disappointing. This isn’t a race! Riding your bicycle quickly, with no stopping, isn’t the point of the CicLAvia.
My young daughter with training wheels had full grown adults blasting by us. We had a great time, but it was stressful at times with so many speeding cyclists blowing by.
The route needs more organized choke points to get people off their bikes and instead get them shopping, talking, dancing, playing music, and taking in the day. The rush of cycling too fast is, in the long run, a toxic combination with all the other activities this day is about.
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Aly Sanderson | April 12, 2011 at 9:37 am
I agree Josef. There should be a right lane for slower traffic. Like pedestrians and kids on bikes. Then a faster left lane. I know that there were signs that instructed people to do this, but maybe some cones or something to help guide everyone would be helpful. Don’t get me wrong the event was incredibly organized and there were no major incidents or accidents. But, as with anything new, there are always tweaks and improvements that can be added to make the event even better.
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josef bray-ali | April 13, 2011 at 10:12 am
I think, perhaps, you misunderstand what I was trying to express: we should not have the day be a “bicycle freeway” day. High speed bicycle traffic kept more kids from actually playing the streets. Bicycles are a great mode on a day like CicLAvia, but to really we-awaken our streets we need to remember that people need to be able to use them without fear of being run over by someone on their weekend need-for-speed re-enactment.
“Congestion” of bikes is fine. It is the whole point of the day to have us use the streets not just for transportation.
You can see this transportation paradigm in so many commenters, with pseudo-safety talk and this notion of isolating “slow traffic” off to one side.
No!
We need to reduce the speed of “traffic”, we need to see these people on bikes as participants moving from one locale to another, and not focus only on the moving. Where are they going? What is there in the road for them to do? I didn’t see a single kid sidewalk chalk drawing in the street, or playing tag, or really doing much of anything except riding a bike or trying not to get run over by someone else riding a bike.
This myopia will continue to nag at this idea of CicLAvia until we either admit the day is a bike freeway day, or more choke points and congestion to through traffic on bikes are introduced to intentionally get people off their steeds and cool their need for speed.
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dancesonh2o | April 12, 2011 at 9:38 am
I love seeing so many LA Natives learning how small our city really is!! If you rode one way the length of the Ciclavia course, you rode 7.5 miles. If you rode the whole thing, it’s 15 miles. I don’t want to offend anybody, but almost everything worth doing in LA is within an 18-mile radius of the Melrose/Heliotrope bike district, so shed two (or three, please!) wheels and start exploring!
And here’s a REAL eye-opener… At least during rush hour, the timeline for your daily commute (within 18 miles of Heli/Mel) has flatlined… all three of the fastest options for travel (Car, public transit, bike) are almost identical. I just jumped around on gmaps and took a peek at our transit options from Melrose/Heliotrope to Santa Monica Pier…
Downtown Union Station to Santa Monica Pier at 5pm on a weekday:
Bus: 1hr 25 minutes
Car: 1 hr 20 minutes (according to the “in traffic” feature)
Bike: 1 hr 28 minutes / 16.5 mi (!!!!!)
And that’s at a VERY CONSERVATIVE gmaps basis of 10mph on flat ground. I’d much rather burn calories than $4+ per gallon fossil fuel!!!
CicLAvia and smaller groups/events like it are collectively WAKING LA UP to the truth… that we DO live in a dynamic, active community of people that want to take their rightful lane and take charge of their mobility!
Onward CicLAvia… I’ll be there every single time you have an event in our beautiful city!
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dancesonh2o | April 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm
why is my previous comment awaiting moderation?
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David Howard | April 12, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I love learning how small my city really is with all of my fellow LA Natives!! If you rode one way the length of the Ciclavia course, you rode 7.5 miles. If you rode the whole thing, it’s 15 miles. I don’t want to offend anybody, but almost everything worth doing in LA is within an 18-mile radius of the Melrose/Heliotrope bike district, so shed two (or three, please!) wheels and start exploring!
And here’s a REAL eye-opener… At least during rush hour, the timeline for your daily commute (within 18 miles of Heli/Mel) has flatlined… all three of the fastest options for travel (Car, public transit, bike) are almost identical. I just jumped around on gmaps and took a peek at our transit options from Melrose/Heliotrope to Santa Monica Pier…
Downtown Union Station to Santa Monica Pier at 5pm on a weekday:
Bus: 1hr 25 minutes
Car: 1 hr 20 minutes (according to the “in traffic” feature)
Bike: 1 hr 28 minutes / 16.5 mi (!!!!!)
And the Bike estimate is based on gmaps’ VERY CONSERVATIVE 10mph on flat ground. I’d much rather burn calories than $4+ per gallon fossil fuel!!!
CicLAvia and smaller groups/events like it are collectively WAKING LA UP to the truth… that we DO live in a dynamic, active community of people that want to take their rightful lane and take charge of their mobility!
Onward CicLAvia!… I’ll be there every single time you have an event in our beautiful city!!
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Andrew | April 12, 2011 at 4:37 pm
This past Sunday’s CicLAvia was my first and definitely won’t be my last (I had a blast!).
First off, I just want to say you have at least two new converts today (myself and a buddy that went to the event with a group from work). Like many drivers in this city, I was never really aware of the surroundings or the people (or at least not as much as I SHOULD BE). Before, I was probably one of those “disdainful” people that yelled at cyclists/pedestrians to “get out of the way”, (Hey, just being honest) but this event has OPENED my EYES and EARS to a whole new reality — You could actually hear the birds chirping for once! Or smell the scent of spring flowers with the cool breeze; the amazing textures of this city blooming into life and just being able to experience it was wonderful (it felt almost cathartic even). Just feeling the sense of community, sharing the streets with thousands from all walks of life, instead of competing was an inexorably amazing experience. Loved it!
This was such a liberating & enlightening experience..so next time I’m in my car I will definitely be more aware (and be more courteous) of the cyclists/pedestrians/surroundings/etc.
Thank you to all the friendly volunteers and those involved in the logistics (both the public and private sectors) of pulling off such an incredible event!
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Katie | April 12, 2011 at 8:29 pm
My fiance and I had a great time on our tandem , as we did on 10-10-10, but I do agree with earlier comments that it would have been nice if the event was more kid- and pedestrian-friendly. I think we actually saw the missing girl others mentioned . . . there was a girl wearing pink riding a pink tricycle, and a cop had to run out and stop her from riding right into traffic at one of the lights/stops, at which point my fiance and I looked around and realized her parents were nowhere to be seen. (Honestly, though, it’s pretty awesome that she did the whole route!) My only other complaint is the cops closing the event out who were yelling at cyclists to get off the road. The cops yelling at us were NOT friendly, and if they’re going to be working a bicycle-centric event perhaps they could be educated about cyclists’ right to the road?
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Cassandra | April 13, 2011 at 5:13 am
Katie!
I wholeheartedly agree on the cops yelling at the cyclists to get off the streets!
“THE ROUTE IS NOW CLOSED. GET OFF THE STREETS. GET OFF THE ROAD!”
We have the right of way regardless and most of the folks were going WITH traffic. Ironic!
Overall, It was a blast! Imagine fourth of july being like that! it would be amazing!
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Racer Dude | April 13, 2011 at 10:23 am
But wait! I’ve got to prove something out there. How is my fiance going to know I’m a serious racer unless I can ride faster than some kids on training wheels through the CicLAvia? Think about my position here… IYM .com
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josef bray-ali | April 13, 2011 at 10:41 am
http://ubrayj02.blogspot.com/2011/04/bicycle-based-myopia-will-ruin-ciclavia.html
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Joe | April 13, 2011 at 10:45 am
Josef,
I agree with you that the day should not be a “bicycle freeway” day; I think that kids playing tag in the street (etc) is a crucial part of Ciclavia. But I don’t think that intentionally creating congestion is the solution. You wouldn’t let your kid play on a “bicycle freeway”, but you probably wouldn’t let him play in the middle of heavy congestion either: even a 3mph collision can cause injury, and when people are packed together uncomfortably close, such collisions are likely to occur. Congestion doesn’t “get people off their steeds”; it just makes their journey longer and less pleasant.
And so what if somebody wants to spend the entire event in the saddle? I did, I loved it, and I think I contributed to the event by doing so. There is plenty of street to go around; the only problem with last weekend is that we hadn’t appropriated enough of it.
With more space, we could accomodate all. Let the kids play in the street wherever they want, and let people who want to maintain a steady cruising speed do so as well (with the understanding that it’s their job to maintain a safe distance from others).
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72HW | April 13, 2011 at 11:00 am
I agree – I spent the whole day on my bike. I am usually a fairly aggressive rider while commuting, but never yell at pedestrians. I take what is mine from the cars around me.
But I dialed all that back at both CicLAvia events, and will continue to so in the future. Kids in front of me on the route were far from annoying – they were a great reminder to be aware of everyone around me, on foot or on wheels
In fact the ONLY times I felt in immediate danger of collision was at these ‘choke points’ Josef is fond of. They were a conga line of tragedy waiting to happen, and pity the group who came up to one of these choke points that was packed with people who had a hard time getting going. I sat at one for 3 full cycles of the traffic light before crossing!
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josef bray-ali | April 13, 2011 at 11:21 am
“Congestion”?!
Is this a freeway or shared space?
Streets are not there for transportation only. This event is about moving beyond that attitude. Bikes are important, but they are not the end-all be -all of a re-envisioned Los Angeles.
Bring on the congestion. Bring on the socializing, the food, the music, the dancing, the playing, politics, markets, debates, flirting.
We don’t need another freeway, even if it is a bicycle freeway. Our streets are worth more than a weekend charity riders quick hit trip to LA.
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Joe | April 13, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Yeah, I was actually referencing your earlier post, which has since disappeared, “…more choke points and congestion to through traffic on bikes are introduced to intentionally get people off their steeds and cool their need for speed.”
I wasn’t referring to socializing, food, etc. which is a different concept entirely.
My condolences on the buttheads who endangered you and your daughter by getting too close while going too fast. I’d be pissed too.
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Joel | April 13, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Here’s a short video I made of the event.
Enjoy.
http://vimeo.com/22330816
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Michael | April 13, 2011 at 4:28 pm
I rode the 15 mi with a group of 12 friends and family, some of whom rarely exercise. It was the best Sunday in a long time.
What a great place our city becomes in 2012 or whenever it’s 20, 30 or 50 miles of free public recreation one or more Sundays a month. We’ll wonder how we got by without it.
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gado_gado | April 13, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Everybody listen up,
July’s CicLAvia is going to prove to be the biggest ever. There is a lot of good publicity for the event and the summer is going to pull people to want to get out and participate in numbers. Therefore, there needs to be discussion about how to expand the routes, make things safer, and how to implement things better for the benefit of the event. Colombia’s version of the event promotes civilians to get out and be active in more ways than one.
If any time to start considering ways to make this event stay a success it’s now. Linton and others are watching what we say and are considering all the angles. I think there is nothing wrong with ideas being expressed towards its constructive development.
Donate money, sign up to volunteer, and email Joe Linton and the others to suggest your ideas. This notion of “leave it alone or you’re going to break it” is absurd. My ideas towards it’s future evolution are just as valid as yours. Go and express them and don’t complain about people who want this event to endure and grow into something as amazing as the one in Bogotá.
This event in LA is promoted by our shared vision of what it will be and through the inspiration that came from the following –
http://www.streetfilms.org/ciclovia/
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amanda | April 14, 2011 at 2:29 pm
This time around instead of riding the entire route, I met friends on 7th St and we played foursqaure for a few hours. Thanks to all of the awesome people passing by who stopped and joined us for a few rounds.
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Joe Linton | April 14, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Wow – comment #100! Wooot! Woooot!
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Christopher | April 15, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Afraid I cannot dedicate volunteer time to the ride in July as I will be departing for a JMT thru-hike within days of the event. I would be very interested in volunteering for the October event however – but I cannot find ways to sign up right now.
I will make sure to save the date for any work I might be able to do – when will the forms be available to offer service in October?
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Joe Linton | April 18, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Generally we start door-to-door canvassing about 45 days prior to the event. Best thing would be to sign-up for our email alerts – go to ciclavia.org – and then keep an eye out for an email asking for volunteers.